The Libertarian Party of Illinois’s Letter to the Libertarian National Committee Calling for the Ouster of Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra

 

After Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra made the comments about why young men are tricked into joining the military and who have made the decision to do it especially for the wrong reasons, the Libertarian Party of Illinois has done something that no state party has done within the last number of years. That “done something” is this: that state party has officially called for the booting of Vohra from the LNC immediately. This is in light of Vohra’s statements on the military and war establishment which were posted on this blog and the continuous showcasing of what the pro-war crowd has tried to do to Vohra since then.

Here’s the letter from the state party calling for throwing him out of the National Committee:

By taking Arvin’s statement out of context, that entire state-run affiliate has been invaded, pervaded, and infiltrated by a bunch of warmongers. None of them love libertarianism and liberty by the way.

This is another sign of the ultra-moderates and the conservatives collaborating to destroy the Party from within and to throw out of our organization good men like Vohra. This is sad, heartbreaking, and full of fear now that my colleagues and I will fight for the soul of the Party in New Orleans, Louisiana in 2018.

Tsk, tsk, tsk…..

Update #1: Here are three comments made to the letter and Vohra personally and politically so far.

Let me show you the screenshot for that.

 

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The Various Members of the Libertarian Party Pushing for Persecution of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra Over His Anti-Military and Anti-War Establishment Comments Part 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Two weeks ago Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra wrote and posted a commentary on his Facebook wall in which he made a highly contentious, uproarious statement saying that young men join the U.S. military for a variety of wrong reasons. It is estimated that half the party base sides with Arvin on the military and foreign policy of non-interventionism, and the other half of the same base wants him to either resign, be removed from his vice-chair position, and/or removed from the Libertarian Party as a whole.

Here are more screenshots for people who want to see how belligerent, volatile, and juvenile many in the Party are:

To be specific, Indiana James (not to be confused with Indiana Jones!) stated the following:

That’s exactly what he wrote in his comments. Now onto the other screenshots:

What strikes me as a curious statement is from Libby Randi who says specifically here:

Really, Libby? Really?

Furthermore, here are more screenshots:

Here’s the second line from Dani White which is highly fundamental:

 

 

Here are the rest of the screenshots:

Here’s more into depth with Judd Weiss’s weigh-in on the ruckus:

Anyhow, here are the last remaining screenshots:

Here’s more on what Roy Britton Scherer said to Steve Toffanelli as well. They both go back and forth with each other, all the while both men are right and wrong regarding their viewpoints:

Alex Biro goes further on this, all the while spewing his invective and a modicum of hate towards Vohra and the entire national leadership:

The final screenshots on Arvin’s wall are here for everyone to peruse:

Ok, let’s get to the bottom of some of the posts that I find confusing with some screenshots to them.

On screenshot #6, this is what Chris Silver wrote completely:

On screenshot #15, this is what asshole party member Andrew Helmstetter wrote to Arvin, attacking him because he told the truth and Helmstetter didn’t like the truth coming about the military:

And Anthony fucking Dlugos is the ultra-moderate who loves to marginalize the purists – including Yours Truly – when it comes to strong, solid issues regarding our party positions, our party base, and the future of the Party. Honestly, he needs to fucking get out of the LP and head for the Republicans….or maybe the Democrats.

Either way, I don’t fucking care.

Also on the same screenshot (as I label it “Screenshot 15(B),” a party member by the name of Rich Turvey – and I have no idea why he’s in the Party because he doesn’t believe in Liberty 100% – attacks our chairman in response to his commentary with the following:

When you have fucking idiots like these people, you know the Party itself is in serious trouble and on a death spiral. Hugh McDonnell can go fuck himself.

Here is some of the hilarious stuff between butthurt asshole fuckwad Zach Garretson and some of the most respected people who are standing up for truth. The truth hurts, doesn’t it, Zachy Boy?

As for Italian stallion Anthony Dlugos, he wouldn’t know what a war was if his ass were strapped to a SCUD missile. He’s a delusional freak and a pro-war monster. He never accepted our Party philosophy, but yet we welcomed him anyway. Fucking sick and pathetic.

Here’s the rest of Garretson’s statement from the LP Veterans Caucus:

On screenshot #20, LP members Cathy Smith, Will Smith (not to be confused with good-looking actor Will Smith), and Christopher Hicks, in their assholish, insulting, condescending, and marginalizing way, called for Vohra to resign. Michael Sanchez, a party member and a dipshit, says nothing of great and paramount value here.  It’s the same with asshole Michael Lawrence. At least Bob Broda has the moxie, the chutzpah, and the balls to tell things like they are:

Specifically, Bob said in part that brings the point closer to home:

On screenshot #23, Justin O’Donnell spoke out of two sides of his mouth when he addressed his gripe to Arvin:

On screenshot #25, Edward L. Garrett, a prick-for-a-party-member, decided to deride Vohra over his comments:

On screenshot #27, another backstabber Craig Bowden turns on Arvin as if Bowden is truly and gravely in the right here.

Donny Henry is also another fucking backstabber. I know the principles of the Party inside and out, and this putz doesn’t know shit from shinola:

On screenshot #30, Michael Coombs and Donny Henry might as well have been a tag team with the way that they behaved on Facebook that night:

On screenshot #32, at the end of the pic, Marc Montoni finishes his statement with the last line that ends up on at the beginning of screenshot #34. Of course Craig Bowden wasted no time to point out the problems that he had with Arvin’s statement, which makes him a fucking dickhead in my opinion:

More from Bowden himself:

I wish Sarah Daggers hadn’t legitimize his points, but the damage is done. So much for party unity. PUMA!*

Conclusion

Arvin Vohra isn’t the enemy here. The enemy here are the people who believe that war is necessary, that military service is necessary, that combat is good, that government is “great” at “national defense” (which is really national offense, but we can’t say that when we’re fighting four or more wars right now). The Libertarian Party has been fighting a war within itself – the conservatarians versus the purists, the purists versus the ultra-moderates, and the ultra-moderates versus the conservatarians, and so on.

Will Coley was right on in this following video:

And all because of what Arvin said was the following:

He didn’t make that statement on his Facebook post. Yes, he did make it in a private post to Michael Sanchez (who has gone on record admitting that he was the one who released that screenshot of that conversation!) on the site’s server, but he did to make a point: as long as we pay taxes into the system and fund the wars, we are “accessories to murder.” As long as you voluntarily sign up for the military – that is, no one forced you to do it or talked you into it or made you do it – you are an accessory to murder. Soldiers kill. They are there in the deep, uncharted terrains of the Middle East to terminate anyone with equal precision and indiscriminately. It could be a man, a woman, a little boy or girl, or perhaps a baby they kill. Perhaps a cat or a dog. It doesn’t matter. They kill without remorse or fear. They are programmed to kill, and it doesn’t matter what anyone says or does. They kill.

What do these LP members who object to Vohra’s commentary think that they were doing when they were in the service? Serving Venti Starbucks Lattes to the people in the villages, especially on the streets of many cities? Selling electronics to customers who needed them badly? What did they think they were doing?

As Jesse Ventura once said, “That’s doing your job.” [Time Index 4:40]

I can hear the LP members foaming at the mouth at me calling me all sorts of disgusting and vulgar names.

[*Note: PUMA means (P)arty (U)nity (M)y (A)ss.]

The Various Members of the Libertarian Party Pushing for the Persecution of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra Over His Anti-Military and Anti-War Establishment Part 1

The Various Members of the Libertarian Party Pushing for Persecution of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra Over His Anti-Military and Anti-War Establishment Comments Part 1

The latest Libertarian Party fallout over Arvin Vohra has become a public relations quagmire, although writer and Libertarian activist, member, and supporter Jill Pyeatt and many commenters on the Independent Political Report‘s post about the ruckus defend Vohra to the hilt. (The fortunate fact is that many of the commenters on IPR disagree with those who are calling for Arvin’s resignation from the Libertarian National Committee, which has been rather silent on the matter the entire time.) The sad reality is that, while many members don’t object to Arvin’s statements, there are many other members – that is, many other various members who object to statements – are the bulk of the Party’s veterans base. The fact that they are offended by Vohra’s statement is that, while it is not surprising, it certainly speaks volumes about their collective character, especially when it seems like they want to tar Vohra and many Libertarians who agree with him with the same political brush.

Here’s what Arvin said on his Facebook account, dated  May 10, 2017 at 9:17 a.m. EST:

To be more descriptive of what Cole Ebel said to Corbin Brown on the same post, the following was said:

Here are the rest of the comments as they have been presented from May 11 to the 14th:

      

Of course, there are more screenshots of the post, but it’s clear that half the member base want to oust Vohra and the other half* are defending him to the hilt.

I will post more of this nonsense in Part 2 either tomorrow night or sometime Monday.

[*Note: I’m one of the “other half” defending Arvin with everything I can muster. These neoconservatives a.k.a. pro-war fucks who have invaded the Party cannot and must not win. They are wrong all the way, and I don’t care. They are paid hit men whether they like it or not. I defend Arvin’s right to free speech as specified under the First Amendment. While he must take full responsibility for his statement, that doesn’t change the fact that he’s fucking spot-on, and, if that pisses off the LP veterans, so fucking be it.

While I value their military service and their desire and willingness to defend this country, let’s not forget one thing: no one forced them to sign up for the service, whether it’s the Air Force, the Army, the Marine Corp., or the Navy. No one strongarmed them. No one even told or ordered them to join either one of those military organizations. They joined out of their own volition.

And, while I’m on a rant here, they weren’t even drafted to fight foreign wars. They made that choice on their own. That’s on them. That’s the point Arvin was getting at. These men and women who were in the service – and many others still are – knew what they were signing up the second they signed on the dotted line at their military recruiters’ offices. A few people in the comments say that, if they didn’t shoot to kill or follow orders, they would either be jailed or dead. I will say it again: no one forced them to join the service. They made that conscious choice. Guess what? They must live with it.

And if their lives were going to be in jeopardy, that’s understandable. They would have to defend themselves. But they didn’t have to join. No one has to. There’s no draft, only voluntary military service.

It’s that simple.]

The Various Members of the Libertarian Party Pushing for Persecution of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra Over His Anti-Military and Anti-War Establishment Comments Part 2

Todd Andrew Barnett’s Facebook Livestream Show: Season Two, Episode 11

Here’s my newest video that I posted on Facebook.

It’s labeled as the following:

S2, Episode 11: The Successes and Failures of the Gary Johnson-Bill Weld Presidential Ticket and the Libertarian Party, Andrew Lea’s Unpopular Opinion on Planned Parenthood and Abortions, Leah Remini’s Scientology and The Aftermath And More

 

Real Time with Bill Maher Host Bill Maher and Interview Guest Comic Sarah Silverman Attack Libertarian Presidential Candidate Gary Johnson By Calling Him ‘A Fucking Idiot’ – 09-30-2016

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HBO‘s Real Time with Bill Maher host Bill Maher, while interviewing show guest and comic Sarah K. Silverman, went on a “whiny-liberal-prick-and-bitch-fest” over Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson because a poll directed at a demographic of 18 – 34 years old people was issued with results indicating Hillary Clinton was at 31%, Donald Trump at 26%, and Johnson….at 29%. That pissed off Bill Maher, who immediately with the help of Silverman called Johnson “a fucking idiot.” Of course Maher proceeded to state that Johnson was in Maher’s “basket of fucking idiots.”

Here’s the entire clip of the segment as follows:

This is what took place as the following in this transcript of the segment of the show:

Bill Maher: Now let me read the polls here on Clinton, 18 – 34 people. Clinton 31%, Trump 26, Gary Johnson….29%. Gary Johnson.

Sarah Silverman: Gary Johnson.

Maher: Gary Johnson….

Silverman: Listen.

Maher: ….is a fucking idiot. [Audience laughs and claps.]

Silverman[Talking out loud through the audience clapping] I thought he was a fucking idiot.

Maher: I like him. He’s a nice guy, but he’s another in my basket of fucking idiots.

Silverman: Listen, I…I voted, and I believe you did, in 2000 for Ralph Nader.

Maher: Yes.

Silverman: But this is not that kind of time.

Maher: [Talking over Silverman while she was making her above comment to him] But he wasn’t an idiot.

Silverman: No, he wasn’t an idiot.

Maher: [Syncing his comment with hers] Right, he wasn’t an idiot.

Silverman: But he wasn’t gonna win.

Maher: [Talking over her again] No, and it was a mistake.

Silverman: [Talking over Maher at the same time] We wanted to vote our conscience.

Maher: I admitted it.

Silverman: It was a mistake.

Maher: Ok, but Gary Johnson…can I show you a little….we put a little montage –

Silverman: [Getting excited] Mmmhmmm. [Chuckles a little]

Maher: –  of Gary Johnson together just to rem – and, and we all thought, thought he was a cool guy. You know, he smokes pot, he was [panelist Angela Rye snickers] for pot, but he does not make pot look good by the way.

Silverman: [Interrupting Bill as he says the “by the way” words] Pot doesn’t make you cool.

Maher: Right.

Silverman: Pot is cool.

Maher: Pot is cool, but –

Silverman: [interrupting Bill] It doesn’t make you cool.

Maher: But you know what’s also cool? Reading!

Silverman: [smiles and gives a slight laugh but also agrees with him]

Maher: Here’s a little bit of Gary Johnson for those thinking of voting for him.

Angela Rye: So weird.

Maher: Really? [Audience laughs cruelly] And….by the way, for the people, 29%, 18 – 34, who I assume were Bernie people, right? Ok, here’s some, uh…minimum wage…..Hillary’s with Bernie. Not Gary Johnson. He believes in no minimum wage. TPP [Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal]……he’s for that. Hillary and Bernie are against it. Citizens United…..all the money you want in politics! Gun control….[Johnson] wants none of that. Financial regulation, universal health care….he is for repealing ObamaCare. Free college….he’s against that. He’s for nothing you fucking people want!

Silverman: It’s not even like it’s any….no one’s misinforming them about him –

Maher: Right.

Silverman: – like they are….like with your friend. You know, it’s like people…..people of  [unintelligible, because Maher and two members of the panel are laughing] what, what….

Rye: You know, that’s true.

Silverman: What you were saying was exactly right. People vote because they’re totally misinformed, and that is a real thing. You know, there is something called Brexit that people voted for totally against their best –

Stephen Moore: Yaay Brexit! You against Brexit?

Rye: Are you serious? [looking at Steve]

Silverman: I, I, um…

Moore: [Talking over Silverman] Brexit is great, self-government-wise! What were you, why were you against Brexit?

Silverman: [interrupting Steve] What are you talking about? They promised…they had huge signs on the sides of buses that said, ” You know, $325 million goes to the EU [European Union] that could, could be going to our health care.

Moore: That’s….not true.

Silverman: They had *NO*  intention of sending it, no intention of Brexit voted through. Then people are Googling what Brexit is after they voted it in.

Peter Hamby: Gary Johnson -.

Maher: [Quickly interrupting Hamby] A pundit.

Hamby: A pundit!

Silverman: [Interrupting Maher] I’m passionate.

Maher: [Interrupting Silverman again] Yes!

Silverman: [Interrupting Maher once again] Oh, don’t show my neck. My neck goes crazy when I have passion.

Maher: You know, you know….

Moore: [Laughs]

Silverman: [Gives Maher a serious, dirty look]

Maher: You know what would help a lot. Exfoliating! [Then bursts in snickering laughter]

Silverman: [Smiles with her mouth open] Good! I think of you every day!

Maher: [Laughs hysterically]

Silverman: My dry brush….

Hamby: Gary Johnson is clearly unfit to be president. What exacerbates me about Gary Johnson not knowing these things – and the collective exacerbation about it – is that neither does Donald Trump.

Maher: Right.

[The audience applauses while Hamby and Maher say those things.]

Hamby: And the problem is that a year ago people should be giving Donald Trump pop quizzes: Name me five countries of NATO. What’s the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah? How does a bill become a law? [Everyone begins to speak at once] Doesn’t Donald Trump know this?

Maher: [interrupting Hamby] No, he doesn’t.

Hamby: I don’t think he does.

 

And so the entire segment ends there. But it’s not a surprise given the hostile nature of the panelists involved in the Gary Johnson – and some Donald Trump – bashing.

Because of this episode, I have cancelled my DVR subscription to Real Time. I am no longer watching the show because Maher and his weekly panel of guests galore are toxic. They are filled with hatred for liberty, hatred for liberty, and hatred for individualism and free markets. They sure do love their liberal statism. And that has become the top, cardinal hallmark of Real Time with Bill Maher.

The Aleppo incident was launched by Mike Barnicle on MNSBC‘s Morning Joe to attack Gary Johnson, disparage him, and to throw a gotcha question at him, considering he threw in the Aleppo question at Gary during his interview on the show just to catch him off-guard.

The question that Barnicle asked was the following:

What would you do if you were elected about Aleppo?

Johnson was puzzled by that question. He asked:

And what is Aleppo?

Barnicle was shocked at his answer. He asked the following interrogative to Gary:

You’re kidding?

Johnson said:

No.

Barnicle replies:

Aleppo is in Syria. It’s the, uh, the epicenter of the refugee crisis –

Johnson interrupts him:

Ok, got it.

Of course, it’s not like Johnson *REALLY* didn’t know what Aleppo was. He did acknowledge that he thought Barnicle was asking him about an acronym, although he admitted that it was no excuse, and he sincerely apologized for it. But Barnicle’s question was poorly worded and quite vague. Remember, we are dealing with a hack writer who resigned from The Boston Globe over two columns written three years apart from each other. One column contained some lines that resembled jokes that were pilfered from the late George Carlin‘s 1997 book Brain Droppings.

The following Wikipedia pic evidences that in great detail.

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Oh, as for the cancer-afflicted kids in the second column? The Globe was unable to find Barnicle’s sources and couldn’t publicly identify them, and yet Barnicle defended his column, saying that every word he wrote was true.

So we have a disgraced writer who is the co-host of a network morning TV show who plagarized from a deceased comic by stealing jokes and using them as his own without any attributions or references to Carlin and who deceived his readers and the Globe by writing a column that failed to identify the names of the kids’ parents, and only got this non-fact-checked story from a nurse whose own credibility can be measured by the digits of her hands.

And, of course, Mike Barnicle says, in a Daily Beast column, he “doesn’t blame Gary Johnson.”

As for Johnson’s “Aleppo moment ” on Hardball with Chris Matthews, he’s since apologized for that, but he did say he meant to tell Matthews that his favorite foreign leader was former Mexican president Vicente Fox. Matthews asked Gary, “Who is your favorite foreign leader?” My response to that is: What the hell of a kind of question is that? Asking a Libertarian presidential candidate who his favorite foreign leader is is like asking a vegan what his favorite meat entree is. No libertarian – not even a credible Libertarian – would willfully answer that question because he or she doesn’t have a favorite foreign leader. Johnson did reveal that Fox was his favorite, but my only criticism of him is that he should have said, “I don’t have a favorite foreign leader, because it’s a silly question, and I don’t idolize or even admire any of them, past or current.”

Oh, but we have to ignore Johnson’s great responses about our foreign policy of interventionism (which he argues should be one of non-interventionism), calling for the end of the Drug War, calling for the strong reformation of our judicial system, and restoring our free market. Oh, and yeah, he even had great answers regarding Syria, our crushing of foreign regimes and our giving those countries weapons which land in the hands of ISIS, and a free market would end climate change. How about that for a change?

Yes, Gary drew a blank on that question and the Aleppo question, but so what? Did Trump not have more embarrassing gaffes? Did Clinton not come up with the mediocre responses to those questions?

Yes, Bill Maher. Gary Johnson. He’s not “a fucking idiot.” It’s funny that you knock him down after you had him on your show for an interview, and you were even condescending to him then. It doesn’t mean anything to you that you cherry pick “facts” and present them to your audiences *AS IF* they are true, and you and I and everyone know they aren’t. You’re the one who doesn’t have his facts; I do. As a Johnson supporter, I know this, and yet you don’t.

If anything, Bill, you *ARE* a fucking idiot, and you’re another in my basket of fucking idiots.