Former Libertarian Party of Michigan Vice-Chair Kim McCurry’s Criticism of My Sincere Defense of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra

Former Libertarian Party of Michigan Vice-Chair Kim McCurry (maiden name being Moore) recently criticized my post defending Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra. She took issue with the fact that I wrote a Facebook post on May 16 of this year, which was tied to her FB post which was about the following:

 

Bill Denton continues:

Of course, this next screenshot says it all about what McCurry and her allies have said months ago:

Notice Kim’s statement in which she comes off demanding to her readers and admits she’s a “conservative libertarian” who wants “social issues out of the LP”:

In the same week, I wrote my Facebook post in the following manner:

I ended up changing the first part of my post to assuage McCurry, but now I realize it was a waste of my time because she backstabbed me on there by having a discussion targetting me behind my back as well as every principled purist in the Libertarian Party.

I think you get the point anyway.

I also had a brief response to Kim as well. This is what the exchange on Facebook went:

It’s sad when you have the former state vice chair of a political party shit on you for the reasons outlined in the screenshots. But then that’s politics for you, especially Libertarian politics.

CONCLUSION

The painfully, ugly reality is this: Kim McCurry was doing her very best to minimize the attacks made against Arvin Vohra over his anti-military comments. She kept telling me that I was in the wrong, that Arvin’s comments had nothing to do with various members who were leaving the Libertarian Party when that was *TRULY* the case. She kept justifying their reasons for their departure by stating that my comments and Arvin’s statements had nothing to do with their leaving and that their decision to say “sayonara” to the Party was due to issues that allegedly had nothing to do with Arvin at all – an argument that I don’t buy and never have bought at all. Moreover, it’s an argument that I WILL NEVER BUY!!!

The problem is this: when you have conservatarians in the Party, they will water down its principles. When conservatarians try to inject social conservatism into the Party’s own political tent, they almost immediately turn the Party into a near carbon copy of their original political organization – in this case, the Republican Party.

Libertarians who want to win elections need to win them and preserve their principles – a lesson that even Ron Paul‘s very own Penny Langford Freedom told Adam Kokesh on his radio show Adam vs. the Man. Libertarian political campaigns are not, should not, and must never be organized and launched to educate the masses about liberty and its spectacular benefits. If people wanted to be educated about liberty and libertarianism, they would read a book on it or take courses in it at, say, the Ludwig von Mises Institute. Libertarian campaigns function for one purpose – and one purpose – only: to win and to enact policies from a strong Libertarian standpoint. They’re not set up to entertain the masses and tell people what the candidates and their supporters want to hear.

That doesn’t mean we reject the nonaggression principle. On the contrary, the NAP should be followed to the letter. To do that you can join the Libertarian and sign the pledge (which is the heart and soul of that principle) and pay your $25. That’s what it was designed for. But when it comes to winning elections you must tailor your message to placate the masses and, if you win and if elected, enact legislation and other policies that would bring about that Libertarian spirit.

That’s what Arvin had in mind. That’s what I had in mind. It’s too bad, however, that Kim McCurry and her legions of followers don’t have that in mind.

 

 

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The Various Members of the Libertarian Party Pushing for Persecution of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra Over His Anti-Military and Anti-War Establishment Comments Part 1

The latest Libertarian Party fallout over Arvin Vohra has become a public relations quagmire, although writer and Libertarian activist, member, and supporter Jill Pyeatt and many commenters on the Independent Political Report‘s post about the ruckus defend Vohra to the hilt. (The fortunate fact is that many of the commenters on IPR disagree with those who are calling for Arvin’s resignation from the Libertarian National Committee, which has been rather silent on the matter the entire time.) The sad reality is that, while many members don’t object to Arvin’s statements, there are many other members – that is, many other various members who object to statements – are the bulk of the Party’s veterans base. The fact that they are offended by Vohra’s statement is that, while it is not surprising, it certainly speaks volumes about their collective character, especially when it seems like they want to tar Vohra and many Libertarians who agree with him with the same political brush.

Here’s what Arvin said on his Facebook account, dated  May 10, 2017 at 9:17 a.m. EST:

To be more descriptive of what Cole Ebel said to Corbin Brown on the same post, the following was said:

Here are the rest of the comments as they have been presented from May 11 to the 14th:

      

Of course, there are more screenshots of the post, but it’s clear that half the member base want to oust Vohra and the other half* are defending him to the hilt.

I will post more of this nonsense in Part 2 either tomorrow night or sometime Monday.

[*Note: I’m one of the “other half” defending Arvin with everything I can muster. These neoconservatives a.k.a. pro-war fucks who have invaded the Party cannot and must not win. They are wrong all the way, and I don’t care. They are paid hit men whether they like it or not. I defend Arvin’s right to free speech as specified under the First Amendment. While he must take full responsibility for his statement, that doesn’t change the fact that he’s fucking spot-on, and, if that pisses off the LP veterans, so fucking be it.

While I value their military service and their desire and willingness to defend this country, let’s not forget one thing: no one forced them to sign up for the service, whether it’s the Air Force, the Army, the Marine Corp., or the Navy. No one strongarmed them. No one even told or ordered them to join either one of those military organizations. They joined out of their own volition.

And, while I’m on a rant here, they weren’t even drafted to fight foreign wars. They made that choice on their own. That’s on them. That’s the point Arvin was getting at. These men and women who were in the service – and many others still are – knew what they were signing up the second they signed on the dotted line at their military recruiters’ offices. A few people in the comments say that, if they didn’t shoot to kill or follow orders, they would either be jailed or dead. I will say it again: no one forced them to join the service. They made that conscious choice. Guess what? They must live with it.

And if their lives were going to be in jeopardy, that’s understandable. They would have to defend themselves. But they didn’t have to join. No one has to. There’s no draft, only voluntary military service.

It’s that simple.]

The Various Members of the Libertarian Party Pushing for Persecution of Libertarian National Committee Vice-Chair Arvin Vohra Over His Anti-Military and Anti-War Establishment Comments Part 2

Todd Andrew Barnett’s Facebook Livestream Show: Season Two, Episode 11

Here’s my newest video that I posted on Facebook.

It’s labeled as the following:

S2, Episode 11: The Successes and Failures of the Gary Johnson-Bill Weld Presidential Ticket and the Libertarian Party, Andrew Lea’s Unpopular Opinion on Planned Parenthood and Abortions, Leah Remini’s Scientology and The Aftermath And More

 

Results of Poll #2: At the Libertarian National Convention, Which Presidential Candidate Will You Vote For?

 

Here are the results of Poll #2, which was being done in May just days before the Libertarian National Convention in Florida:

Poll Closed - Results for At The National Convention, Which LP Presidential Candidate Will You Vote For Part 1 - Clip - 06-29-2016