HBO‘s Real Time with Bill Maher host Bill Maher and his panel on the July 15, 2016 show, in which Maher, actor and interviewed guest Viggo Mortensen, conservative Republican S.E. Cupp, former Governor Eliot Spitzer (D-NY), and New Yorker staff writer Jelani Cobb discuss Donald Trump‘s veep pick 50th Indiana Republican Governor Mike Pence.
Reason.TV Host Nick Gillespie: Mike Pence, as Donald Trump’s VP, is Mike Pence the type of person America needs at this time to reign in “constitutional chaos,” as you’ve called it?
Judge Andrew Napolitano: Probably not, but he will help Donald Trump with, uh, credibility amongst, uh, mainstream conservative Republicans, and, if they’re elected, they’ll help Donald Trump with his dealings with the, uh, with the elected Congress. This is…
Gillespie: So…[about to interrupt]
Napolitano: This is another example of “let’s-not-preserve-protect-and-defend-the-Constitution.” Let’s find ways around it to achieve our ends.
Gillespie: So…Mike Pence is a conservative statist as I understood it.
Napolitano: [Interrupting Nick] Yes, absolutely, as almost all conservatives are.